God doesn’t meet us where we should be, or where we wish we were, but right where we really are. This is our 3rd missional theology axiom, and in this episode, Matt Tebbe, Ben Sternke, and Ben Hardman talk about why “getting real” is essential in our growth as disciples and leaders.
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Steven Barr says
Hi guys. Good to hear your voices.
Very relevant podcast for something that we are going through. Thank you for your obedience to God in this. Praying you see much fruit in the kingdom of God through you’re lives and through his word.
Steven and Dorothy.
Ben Sternke says
So glad it was helpful!
Allan Bruce says
Loved this pod cast
Disengage by doing God stuff was a insight,
Reality is hard to control was also a new bend for me,
Salvation is learning to be at home with God warmed my soul
Jeff Barclay says
I am devouring these axioms. So you said, “Two peas in a pod,” means what? And I am glad you have only “should on yourself” (haven’t we all) and never “sh_t on yourself” (and some of us have) 😉
Ben Sternke says
Glad to hear it, Jeff! And yes there is a bit of a double-entendre intended in the phrase “shoulding on yourself.” 😉
Been enjoying the podcasts. Like the idea we need to be present. This is our vulnerability as humans, to feel what is inside of us.
Have you done some follow up podcasts, perhaps to talk about defences in more detail? The type of defense you talk here most about is perceptual defense. There is also defense against feelings, and defending against attachment. We need to feel all our feelings, but there are 5 key feelings (from memory) that are needed for maturation to unfold. These are the feelings we need.
Wonder if your language is changed as well. I don’t think calling defense – toxic shame is always beneficial. What shocked me was when I learnt that “defense is not always bad”. We need defense to survive in a wounding environment. Our brain is designed to defend against to much seperation to bear. So then there would be cases where Jesus would Not be ruthless about helping people to own and name where they are at. We do not always want to dismantle a person’s defenses else they may not survive the environment they are in. We may just want to soften them just a little. Love to engage more, hope this helps.