Part 8 of our series on what we’re learning about women and men leading together in the church. We interview Amber Haines and Seth Richardson again (we interviewed them for Part 3, too), who work together at Christ the King Anglican Church in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
Amber and Seth share with us a new theological model they’ve been experimenting with for how men and women relate to one another, rooted in the goodness of communion rather than the fear of “what could go wrong.” This one’s really good. Lots to chew on here:
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- Gravity Leadership National Gathering | Oct 26-27, 2018 | Indianapolis
- Gravity Leadership Academy | we’re always starting new cohorts!
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Bernard Tam says
October 11, 2018 at 12:51 PMReally love the stuff you guys are working through and especially through this series! Thanks for putting this together; my buddies and I are really encourage and challenged by your discussions. I was listening to this podcast today and really appreciate the posture that Seth and Amy are seeking to form and model for their community. There is a question that keeps looming in my thoughts and that has to do with ethnic communities. I recognize that the hope is to cultivate this practice of mutual submission and in a way flattening of authority and power but how does that work in an ethnic culture (for example Chinese and Korean) church? One thought is that the Chinese and Korean church has quite a strong roots in patriarchy and perhaps that may root itself in its culture. Are there ways to begin to shift this posture to some of what you guys have started painting as a new model of leadership?
Ben Sternke says
October 11, 2018 at 12:59 PMWow, what a great question! We’ve been talking about this from our location/perspective, which happens to be Western/white, so I wouldn’t presume to know the first thing about how the conversation would need to happen in a Chinese or Korean culture. I think we would definitely need Chinese/Korean practitioners to teach us! If that’s the culture you’re from, Bernard, I’d say that your willingness to experiment will be a gift to the church!
One thought I have that might make an interesting data point in that discussion would be that I’ve heard that the typical leader in underground church in China is a 16-year-old girl. Not sure about the veracity of that, but if true, it would be an interesting upending of traditional Chinese culture!
So glad the podcast has been helpful and thought-provoking for you, Bernard!